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LOTR Fanfiction Archive

With much regret I have decided to follow the example of many other authors who are appalled at the new development at the LOTR Fanfiction archive, and have deleted my story from there. I have saved the much treasured reviews I've got on the story so far as screenshots, so I can heart them - but I cannot stay on an archive that is for profit, or even may bring down the wrath of the Tolkien Estate on all our heads because it is for profit. It is one thing to ask for donations or to advertise to shoulder part of the hosting costs, and even that is still an iffy issue in some cases. It is quite another to go around and explicitly try to buy and sell "profitable" sites.

So, my stuff will be found henceforth at LJ and a few selected other sites, but not there, anymore. XCCCC

I shall be starting on transferring my stuff to AO3, this weekend - if we have to face the danger of C&D's from the copyright owners, then by all means do it for a site that is worth fighting for, not for a site somebody tries to gain a profit from fans working for what they want to be a community of sharing their works for free. Fanfiction is about stories written NOT FOR PROFIT. The moment you change that and try to use these fanworks for commerce? You kill the spirit of the thing. And I love this very thing too much to allow myself to take part in something that is killing this spirit.

EDIT to add: Done. I have now requested to have my account deleted at LOTRFF.com, too. My stories will be reposted (among other places) at the new archive, Faerie: http://efiction.esteliel.de/index.php

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( 14 comments )
clodia_metelli
Jun. 30th, 2011 10:06 pm (UTC)
Ugh, I need to pull my fics, I'm just not in the mood (domestic arragements going on right now, or rearrangements rather). Oh well, next time I feel like deleting myself entirely from the internet and salting the ruins, I'll sort it out!
crowdaughter
Jun. 30th, 2011 10:27 pm (UTC)
Well, I am not deleting myself entirely from the Internet and salting the ruins. Just from that archive! And I have not requested the removal of my account, so far, because I need to talk to somebody first whose stories I had started to read and comment on, there - and I want to find a way to keep commenting on her stories before I pull my account. Actually, I entered that archive in the first place just so I could start comment on her fics. :(

Still, this is part of the reason I am glad that most people (like you) are posting their stories on multiple sites...
sagaluthien
Jun. 30th, 2011 10:24 pm (UTC)
I never posted any of my stories there, so I feel quite good for that.
crowdaughter
Jun. 30th, 2011 10:29 pm (UTC)
{{{hugs}}} Lucky you! I had just recently finished posting all my 52 chapters there. -________-

Where can I find your stuff? At LJ? Or are you using other archives, too?
sagaluthien
Jul. 1st, 2011 11:18 am (UTC)
Most of my stories are at my story journal sagas_stories
And then I have ss_sanctuary for my unbetad stories.
nierielraina
Jun. 30th, 2011 10:43 pm (UTC)
Tal Valante, a member of aragornangst yahoo group, is in the planning stage to open a new Tolkien fanfic archive that would allow all ratings/genres. Basically it would allow everything LOTRFF did (well maybe wihtout the lists of how to annoy the Fellowship ;P). I'll keep people posted as I find out more. I've been asked to step back into role of moderator once it's up and running. :)
crowdaughter
Jun. 30th, 2011 10:58 pm (UTC)
That is great news! Still, it is a mess that the fandom and the community formed at LOTRFF will probably be split another time, because not everybody will be moving to the new archive, some may move to another archive, some people may decide to stay... anyway. If the new archive will go up, I will be hapy to post there, too! :)

The community moving problem is part of the reason why I never moved away from Live Journal, too - I have a Dreamwith account and one at insane Journals, but well, the people I know and have connections with are here. Every time such a thing happens, the community dies a little, until it can regroup. This is a mess. :(

nierielraina
Jun. 30th, 2011 11:13 pm (UTC)
*nod* :( Maybe we can get enough word around though to pull in the majority of the active community.
ebbingnight
Jul. 1st, 2011 12:27 am (UTC)
Dear Aislynn, and a new chapter would draw even more readers to any archive to which you move, methinks! But I'll follow wherever you go....
crowdaughter
Jul. 3rd, 2011 08:46 pm (UTC)
Dearest Ebbingnight,

thank you! I am working on the next chapter, already, although I fear it's slow. But I will definitely continue this fic, and I do hope that I can keep you as a reader - you are always so very encouraging to me! :)

vamp_ress
Jul. 1st, 2011 08:22 pm (UTC)
if we have to face the danger of C&D's from the copyright owners, then by all means do it for a site that is worth fighting for, not for a site somebody tries to gain a profit from fans working for what they want to be a community of sharing their works for free.

Such a beautiful sentiment and so very true. I love that sentence!

I'll pull my stories one of these days (I have to check first whether I've saved all reviews). I've never been very active there anyway, so it's not a hardship for me. For other people, though... very sad.

I'm also still giving out http://www.skyehawke.com invites in case you're interested. And I do hope people will continue to post their new "home bases". I like to know where to find everyone in the future!
crowdaughter
Jul. 3rd, 2011 08:58 pm (UTC)
Thank you for the link to skyhawke - I shall check it out one of these days. At the moment, I am in the process of transferring all my stuff to Faerie :) - and then I have to go and do the same to AO3, which still holds only a part of my first story. I quake at starting to post the 57 chapters I have now to yet another place...

Such a beautiful sentiment and so very true. I love that sentence!

*bows* :) You know, I fear we will at some point, sooner or later, actually have to face that fight. With the current tempo the content industry is going world-wide to limit unpaid consumption and uses and reuse of content they hold the rights to*, and the growing attempts to block "copyright infringing" websites, it is just a matter of time until one of them really tries to fight the question if fanfiction should be forbidden or not through all the instances in the USA. And then we can only hope for an outcome that will rule in favor of remixing and fair use. After all, they try to go after bloggers for quoting of newspaper articles, already, too.

This is another point why that whole "lets make profit from a fanfic site" idea of this guy over there makes me so nervous....

On the other hand, I've read the position of OTW last night. They at least seem to see the whole thing less critical, which does give me hope.

*edited for clarity. Quite often, the copyright owners are not the creators of the work, after all...

Edited at 2011-07-03 09:00 pm (UTC)
vamp_ress
Jul. 4th, 2011 06:40 pm (UTC)
I don't think authors on the site are in risk of getting sued. AFAIK website owners have always shouldered that risk all on their own. That said, I must say I share your sentiment about the general situation. It seems both the industry and politics would like to severely limit the internet. Because it's just so bothersome if people there can do whatever they want... I have a small hope that something as niché-y as fanfiction can fly under the radar for a while (while everyone fights streaming videos and pirating music), but at some point the general direction in which this is all going *will* affect fandom.
dreamflower02
Jul. 6th, 2011 07:10 pm (UTC)
I just pulled my 115 stories, after saving my reviews.

I hope many others will continue to do so.
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